The ShiftShapers Podcast

EP 541 When CFOs Treat Healthcare As Any Other Cost - with Carl Schuessler, Jr.

Published: March 24, 2026

Duration: 26:47

We explore how employers can manage healthcare like any other cost by shifting from insurer-built, passive plans to employer-built, actively managed designs. Carl Schuessler, Jr. shares candid tactics on data, precision testing, and honest change management that help advisors become true risk partners.

• defining a health plan mission that aligns to EBITDA and predictability
• focusing on data hot spots such as MSK, imaging, pharmacy, and facilities
• using billing audits and cost containment partners to reduce leakage
• when and how to apply precision tests as costs drop
• overcoming fear of self-funding with worst-case clarity and reserv...