
Can Defense in Depth Work for AI? (with Adam Gleave)
Published: October 3, 2025
Duration: 1:18:35
Adam Gleave is co-founder and CEO of FAR.AI. In this cross-post from The Cognitive Revolution Podcast, he joins to discuss post-AGI scenarios and AI safety challenges. The conversation explores his three-tier framework for AI capabilities, gradual disempowerment concerns, defense-in-depth security, and research on training less deceptive models. Topics include timelines, interpretability limitations, scalable oversight techniques, and FAR.AI’s vertically integrated approach spanning technical research, policy advocacy, and field-building.
LINKS:
Adam Gleave - https://www.gleave.me
FAR.AI - https://www.far.ai
The Cognitive Revolution Podcast - https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai...