Trust but Verify, How to Use AI in Engineering Without Breaking Security

E585 - Trust but Verify, How to Use AI in Engineering Without Breaking Security

Published: December 15, 2025

Duration: 30:15

Software is still eating the world, and AI is speeding up the clock. In this episode, Amir talks with Tariq Shaukat, co CEO at Sonar, about what it really takes for non tech companies to build like software companies, without breaking trust, security, or quality.


Tariq shares how leaders can treat AI like a serious capability, not a shiny add on, and why clean code, governance, and smart pricing models are becoming board level topics.


Key Takeaways


• “Every company is a software company” does not me...