
E614 - The Real Learning Curve of Engineering Management
Published: February 2, 2026
Duration: 25:52
Tom Pethtel, VP of Engineering at Flock Safety, breaks down the real learning curve of moving from builder to manager, and how to keep your technical edge while scaling your impact through people.
You will hear how Tom’s path from rural Ohio to leading high stakes engineering teams shaped his approach to leadership, hiring, and staying close to the customer.
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