172 For the Fallen: First Sgt. Karl Kelley - Indiana DNR
Published: May 13, 2026
Duration: 43:05
In this National Police Week memorial episode, Wayne sits down with two men who lived through an
unimaginable moment when a training exercise turned into a fight for survival. Retired Indiana DNR
Lieutenant Colonel Terry Hyndman and First Sgt. Tom Jahn revisit the day they lost their friend and
teammate, First Sgt. Karl Kelley, in a swift water incident that still shapes them decades later. It’s a
difficult listen at times - but an important one - and a reminder of what service and brotherhood truly
mean.
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