WarTalk with Ely Ratner on Iran War Peace + the 'BS' US-China Stalemate

WarTalk with Ely Ratner on Iran War Peace + the 'BS' US-China Stalemate

Published: June 19, 2026

Duration: 1:17:51

Ely Ratner, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Indo-Pacific Security Affairs and now a principal at the Marathon Initiative, joins Jordan, Bryan Clark, and Justin to make sense of the Iran ceasefire and where US-China competition goes next.

We discuss:

Why the MOU reads as a loss: the blockade comes down first, Iran keeps its missiles and its "nuclear dust," and a younger, harder regime learns it can take American firepower and wield an oil weapon The "bullshit détente" with Beijing and whether reindustrialization can carry a China-competition message without sounding hawkish Output metrics over i...