
BONUS Why Your Agile Transformation Keeps Snapping Back — And What Systems Thinking Says About It With Natalia Curusi
Published: May 2, 2026
Duration: 37:11
BONUS: Why Your Agile Transformation Keeps Snapping Back — And What Systems Thinking Says About It
Natalia Curusi co-authored a book that doesn't tell you what agile should look like — it tells you what actually happens when you try to transform an organization. Friday-night deployments, zombie teams going through the motions, transformations that met a wall of silence. In this episode, we unpack the real lessons from the front lines: how personal values drive the shift to agile, why some teams have all the ceremonies but none of the substance, and what systems thinking reveals about why transformations fail — or snap b...