He Built a Phone the Government Can't Track W/Hakeem Anwar

S1E70 - He Built a Phone the Government Can't Track W/Hakeem Anwar

Published: July 31, 2026

Duration: 1:16:36

Episode Summary

Oto sits down with Hakeem Anwar — founder of #TakeBackOurTech and Above, a privacy-first phone, laptop, and communications company — to map out exactly how the surveillance system works and what people can actually do about it.

They trace Hakeem's path from a decade-deep conspiracy rabbit hole through a big-tech career to founding Above after COVID convinced him he was "coding his own prison."

From there the conversation covers the AI data center boom (and the free tool Hakeem built, aidatacentermap.org, to track its water and power use), Palantir's "unified surv...