Systemic Control: Richard Grove & William Binney on the Totalitarian History of Mass Surveillance
Published: July 7, 2026
Duration: 0:47
Watch the full interview here: 👉 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3owk7vEEOvs
How does modern surveillance connect to history's most brutal regimes? 🛑
In this interview clip, Richard Grove speaks with former NSA Technical Director William Binney to uncover the dark historical roots of population tracking. Binney outlines how gathering knowledge on an entire population is fundamentally a totalitarian procedure. He walks through history—from Caesar Augustus causing dissidents to disappear, to the Stasi in East Germany, the Soviet gulags, and the Gestapo.
Their interview conversation emphasizes that mass tracking is not a new se...
How does modern surveillance connect to history's most brutal regimes? 🛑
In this interview clip, Richard Grove speaks with former NSA Technical Director William Binney to uncover the dark historical roots of population tracking. Binney outlines how gathering knowledge on an entire population is fundamentally a totalitarian procedure. He walks through history—from Caesar Augustus causing dissidents to disappear, to the Stasi in East Germany, the Soviet gulags, and the Gestapo.
Their interview conversation emphasizes that mass tracking is not a new se...