A climate activist and a gas executive walk into a bar

A climate activist and a gas executive walk into a bar

Published: April 1, 2026

Duration: 32:36

Zeyneb Magavi is a bona fide climate nerd; she drives an electric car, has solar panels on her roof, and worries about natural gas leaks because they’re a major source of planet-warming emissions.

Bill Akley is a lifelong natural gas guy; he grew up smelling heating oil in his kitchen, spent decades in the energy industry, and eventually became head of New England’s largest gas utility. 

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