
Star Trek The Next Conversation - a comedy Star Trek podcast currently about TV's Deep Space Nine DS9 (or TNG)
byMatt Mira and Andrew Secunda
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Podcast… the final frontier! "Star Trek: The Next Generation" devotee and authority Matt Mira leads Next Gen skeptic Andrew Secunda into the deepest reaches of the series episode by episode and beyond! Listen as they discuss, debate, and enjoy all the legendary show's strengths, failings, and innovations. Email us! STTNCPOD@gmail.com Twitter/X/TikTok/Youtube: @StarTrekTNC Web: startrektnc.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/startrektnc
Episodes(40 episodes)
DS9 s4e17 "Accession"
The Sisko is joined by another guy who thinks he's the Emmisary (what, can ANYBODY call themselves an emmisary?) and quiet discussion ensues! Oh, and a casual homicide. And the boys asks the question: have Bajorans always been religious kooks?[Episode discussion begins around 53:00]
Published: Mar 22, 2026Duration: 2h 4m 6s
DS9 s4e16 "Bar Association"
Rom becomes a union man! O'Brien reveals just how bored he was on the Enterprise! And Worf...is vaguely disgruntled with living on DS9?[Episode discussion begins around 1:15]
Published: Feb 22, 2026Duration: 2h 24m 26s
DS9 s4e15 "Sons of Mogh"
Tony Todd returns, killing it as Kurn as he demands that Worf kills him! Is Worf's solution honorable or extra weird and messed up?[Episode discussion begins around 55:00]
Published: Feb 7, 2026Duration: 2h 9m 23s
DS9 s4e14 "Return to Grace"
It's back-to-back weirdos being weird about Kira, but this time it's Dukat! In an A plot that runs the length of the episode without check-ins back at the station, Kira and the ex-Gul enter a game of cat and mouse (or Bird of Prey and defrocked Cardassian?) and Matt and Andy are along for the ride.[Episode discussion begins around 45:00]
Published: Jan 21, 2026Duration: 1h 44m 28s
DS9 s4e13 "Crossfire"
Kira forgets about Odo in this heart-breaking, difficult-to-watch, but undeniably great episode. And Odo FINALLY doesn't forget to use his T-1000 silver weapon hands to do SOMETHING.[Episode discussion begins around 51:00]
Published: Jan 8, 2026Duration: 2h 7m 34s
DS9 s4e12 "Paradise Lost"
Is a badmiral trying to Make Earth Great Again? Has Avery Brooks finally found a plot to match the size of his performance? And can he outsmart Not Nick Lacarno from Not Nova Squadron? Either way, Not Leah Brahms may save the day!Happy Gratitude festival, crew! We are gratitudinal for all of you. [Episode discussion begins around 1:15]
Published: Dec 23, 2025Duration: 2h 13m 30s
DS9 s4e11 "Homefront"
Dangers abound back in Sector 001 and that means it's time for a Sisko family vay-cay! Ben and his dad perform at the top of their lungs, Odo escapes Dax's merciless bullying to go seagull-to-seagull with the changelings, while Leah Brahms returns in her secret identity![Episode discussion begins around 50:00]
Published: Dec 2, 2025Duration: 2h 2m 13s
DS9 s4e10 "Our Man Bashir"
Is Bashir the greatest Bond of all? If so, nobody tell Cubby Broccoli's legal department![Episode discussion begins around 1:01]
Published: Nov 18, 2025Duration: 2h 17m 38s
DS9 s4e9 "The Sword of Kahless"
Worf joins Dax and his celebrity crush Kor for the grandest adventure of all until the Klingons go inexplicably insane.[Episode discussion begins around 58:00]
Published: Nov 3, 2025Duration: 2h 5m 40s
DS9 s4e8 "Little Green Men"
In this delightful time-travel romp, the Ferengi trio jaunt over to apparently nearby Earth and find themselves Roswelled! And does Odo/James Cromwell eat/murder a dog? Matt and Andy discuss![Episode discussion begins around 1:02, MAN OF STEEL and Donner SUPERMAN spoilers around 28:00ish]
Published: Oct 24, 2025Duration: 1h 59m 22s
DS9 s4e7 "Starship Down"
Sisko is out of commission, Kira finally learns how to treat him like a regular friend and not with all the reverence due the Emissary (had she been doing that?), Worf plays out the ol' "person suddenly in command who needs to learn how to be command" trope, and Bashir and Dax get cracking on retconning Bashir. But don't forget about Odo! Actually, you probably can except for one scene.[Episode discussion begins around 1:23 - for a whopping 2:45 for a regular episode! Mostly nonsense.]
Published: Oct 13, 2025Duration: 2h 45m 30s
DS9 s4e6 "Rejoined"
Dax decides between a hook-up with the Borg Queen (sorta) or exile. Is resistance futile? And Matt and Andy ask (Seinfeld voice) "WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH TRILLS?"[Episode discussion begins around 49:00]
Published: Sep 30, 2025Duration: 2h 11m 4s
DS9 s4e5 "Indiscretion"
Can two DS9 characters have a conversation without it being about Kasidy Yates? Not many of these scenes pass the Yates test! And does Dukat have a heart, and if so is it filled with cold blood?[Episode discussion begins around 1:10]
Published: Sep 17, 2025Duration: 2h 12m 26s
DS9 s4e4 "Hippocratic Oath"
Bashir and O'Brien go head-to-head about whether to save some Jem'Hadar while Matt and Andy go head-to-head with the TNC crew about whether "The Visitor" is heartbreaking or just okay.[Episode discussion begins around 1:22]
Published: Aug 23, 2025Duration: 2h 28m 52s
DS9 s4e3 "The Visitor"
Candyman Tony Todd appears as Jake Sisko through the ages - and in some insane age make-up! Todd and Avery Brooks also go head-to-head in a real theatrical-acting-off! Meanwhile Matt asks the question - couldn’t somebody at Starfleet have helped Jake with any of this? [Episode discussion begins 1:13ish. Voyager spoiler at 13:50ish for those who practice. OR IS IT NOT EVEN A SPOILER BECAUSE WE’VE WATCHED IT?]
Published: Aug 18, 2025Duration: 2h 20m 12s
DS9 s4e3 "The Visitor"
Candyman Tony Todd appears as Jake Sisko through the ages - and in some insane age make-up! Todd and Avery Brooks also go head-to-head in a real theatrical-acting-off! Meanwhile Matt asks the question - couldn’t somebody at Starfleet have helped Jake with any of this? [Episode discussion begins 1:13ish. Voyager spoiler at 13:50ish for those who practice. OR IS IT NOT EVEN A SPOILER BECAUSE WE’VE WATCHED IT?]
Published: Aug 6, 2025Duration: 2h 20m 12s
DS9 s4e1/s4e2 "The Way of the Warrior, Parts I and II"
Matt and Andy finally watch the arrival of Worf to DS9, as the MVC song prophesied. And boy, did everybody made a big deal out of Sisko's shaved head and the arrival of Worf being harbingers of awesomeness for the show...... but maybe they didn't make a BIG ENOUGH deal of how awesome it was about to get?[Episode discussion begins around 52 minutes in]
Published: Jul 8, 2025Duration: 2h 53m 6s
DS9 s3e26 "The Adversary"
There's a spy aboard Defiant and everybody's got an excuse to act weird! And we see one of Andy's favorite complaints about Odo be proven right - he should be T2-ing and Mr. Fantastic-ing all over the place![Episode discussion begins around 1:06]
Published: Jul 2, 2025Duration: 2h 26m 58s
DS9 s3e25 "Facets"
Jadzia meets her other hosts, and it's a sketch character showcase! Always wanted to meet Curzon? Well don't forget about Odo! But maybe forget about Curzon?[Episode discussion begins around 57:00]
Published: Jun 10, 2025Duration: 2h 7m 45s
DS9 s3e24 "Shakaar"
Kai Winn continues to be one of the most duplicitous, unpalatable, self-serving, hypocritical leaders in Trek history - whew! Thank goodness it's just sci-fi.[Episode discussion begins around 1:12]
Published: May 23, 2025Duration: 2h 13m 24s