
S7E3 - Allies in Pain with Lisa Whittle and Jo Saxton
Published: August 25, 2025
Duration: 52:34
Jo Saxton and Lisa Whittle are who I call my “allies in pain.” They are like big sisters to me, lifelines whom I can text at any time for advice. The idea of “withness” that I talk about in my new book, someone’s presence with you in your pain – they have lived it out so beautifully. And they were relentless in making sure that I told the truth about the betrayal I experienced in my marriage two years ago.
Lisa, Jo, and I have a conversation about finding (and being) trusted friends, saying the hard and difficult thi...