Mindfulness Exercises, with Sean Fargo

How To Build A Healthier Relationship With Your Phone

Published: June 16, 2026

Duration: 25:39

Your phone is not just a gadget. It is a gateway into an economy built to capture attention, shape behavior, and keep you coming back. We bring on Jay Vidyarthi, mindfulness teacher, UX designer, technologist, and founder of Still Ape, to talk about the real world collision between contemplative practice and the modern attention economy. We start with a short, grounding practice of “doing nothing,” then zoom out to the strange fact that even this conversation is carried by microphones, data packets, and screens.

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