E188 - “Can Work Be Fun?” with Bree Groff, workplace expert and author of “Today was Fun,” and Mary Kate Stimmler, Practitioner Fellow at the Center for Advanced Studies in Behavioral Sciences at Stanford
Published: April 14, 2026
Duration: 50:54
How can leaders make work both fun and drive high-performance?
Why do the high performers find joy in intense work?
My guests on this episode are Bree Groff, workplace expert and author of “Today was Fun,” and Mary Kate Stimmler, Practitioner Fellow at the Center for Advanced Studies in Behavioral Sciences at Stanford
During our conversation, Bree, Mary Kate, and I discuss the following:
Why the belief that high performance requires pressure and sacrifice is flawedHow leaders can design work that creates energy, not burn...