Future of HR

Future of HR

byJP Elliott

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The Future of HR is the only podcast whose mission is to inspire the next generation of HR Leaders. In each episode, JP Elliott interviews successful HR executives and thought leaders who share their career journeys, lessons learned, and advice on how to take our field and your career to the next level. If you are a next-gen HR leader looking to fast-track your career, this is the podcast for you.

Episodes(40 episodes)

Episode 209
“Chase the Butterflies and Other Unwritten Rules of a Successful HR Career” Allan Church & Janine Waclawski, Co-Founders and Managing Partners, Maestro Consulting LLC
How can you “chase the butterflies” and take the stretch assignment that scares you?Why do the best HR leaders learn to “porpoise” and flex between strategy and execution?My guest on this episode is Allan Church & Janine Waclawski, Co-Founders and Managing Partners, Maestro Consulting LLCDuring our conversation Allan, Janine, and I discuss: Why you should never say no to a job you haven’t been offered. How “meeting the client where they are” is the foundation of every HR relationship. What it means to “porp...
Published: Sep 8, 2026Duration: 1h 4m 40s
Episode 208
“Collective Confidence: Why Belief Separates Good Teams From Great Ones” André Martin, Chief Experience Officer at LEAD3R, author of Wrong Fit, Right Fit and Collective Confidence
How can you build teams that have collective confidence?Why does belief matter when it comes to building high performance teams?My guest on this episode is André Martin, Chief Experience Officer at LEAD3R, author of Wrong Fit, Right Fit and Collective ConfidenceDuring our conversation André and I discuss:Why capable executive teams play small, even when they should be playing big. How collective confidence drives performance, especially as complexity rises.How the best leaders make belief-building a daily practice.How early, lo...
Published: Sep 1, 2026Duration: 37m 51s
Episode 207
“How HR and Finance Build the Business Together” Christian Wattig, Director of the Wharton FP&A Program and Founder of Inside FP&A
How can HR and Finance build the business together?Why can't finance achieve true value creation without HR's knowledge and expertise?My guest on this episode is Christian Wattig, Director of the Wharton FP&A Program and Founder of Inside FP&ADuring our conversation Christian and I discuss:Why the scorekeeper mindset keeps finance and HR stuck in the back officeHow challenging assumptions helps leaders think rather than just slowing them downThe four stages of finance maturity, from data to proactive value creation...
Published: Aug 25, 2026Duration: 47m 12s
Episode 206
“Why Business Acumen is the Capability You Control” Rose Velez-Smith, CHRO, DoubleVerify
How can you build business acumen without owning a P&L? Why is developing your business acumen within your control?My guest on this episode is Rose Velez-Smith, CHRO, DoubleVerifyDuring our conversation Rose and I discuss:Why stepping out of HR to be in the business can be the single best thing you do for your career. How to start every executive conversation with business priorities first, then ask what talent outcomes are needed to enable them.Why talent doesn't exist separate from business strategy...
Published: Aug 18, 2026Duration: 31m 24s
Episode 205
“Why Verizon Made Its HR Business Partners a Center of Excellence” Christina Schelling, SVP, Human Resources, Verizon
How can you create an HR Business Partner Center of Excellence?Why does HR need to shift from owning programs to owning business outcomes?My guest on this episode is Christina Schelling, SVP, Human Resources, VerizonDuring our conversation Christina and I discuss:Why naming the HRBP group a Center of Excellence gives partners community, shared goals, and focused development.How the HR business partner role is evolving to be more strategic.How Verizon defined HRBP success with four shared metrics aligned to their...
Published: Aug 11, 2026Duration: 39m 39s
Episode 204
[Greatest Hits] “The 7 Rules of Power” with Jeffrey Pfeffer, Professor Stanford University and Author of 16 books including the “7 Rules of Power
Why is the single biggest barrier to having power…ourselves?How can you, as an HR professional step into your power?My guest on this episode is Jeffrey Pfeffer, Professor of Organizational Behavior at the Graduate School of Business, Stanford University and Author of 16 books including his latest one the “7 Rules of Power”:During our conversation Jeffrey and I discuss:Why he believes the single biggest barrier to having power is ourselvesWhy it is important that we own and tell our story, not let others...
Published: Aug 4, 2026Duration: 32m 15s
Episode 203
“Data Storytelling: How HR Turns Insight Into Influence” Morgan Depenbusch, Data Storytelling & Influence Expert
How can you turn HR data into insights that drive decisions?Why do leaders make decisions based on their experience and instinct, not just data? My guest on this episode is Morgan Depenbusch, Data Storytelling & Influence ExpertDuring our conversation Morgan and I discuss:How to tell what data is interesting from what data is decision relevantWhy one reason to say no can beat twenty reasons to say yesWhy you should see yourself as the guide and the leader as the heroHow to surface...
Published: Jul 28, 2026Duration: 38m 45s
Episode 202
“Everyone Knows Meetings Suck. Can We Actually Fix Them?” Steven Rogelberg, author of “The Surprising Science of Meetings” and “Glad We Met: The Art & Science of 1:1 Meetings”
How can HR transform meetings into a competitive advantage?Why is the one-on-one the one meeting that leaders should never cancel?My guest on this episode is Steven Rogelberg, author of “The Surprising Science of Meetings” and “Glad We Met: The Art & Science of 1:1 Meetings” During our conversation Steven and I discuss:Why a world without meetings is worse than a world with themWhy the person who called the meeting is usually the only one who thinks it went well.Why measurement is the missing piece as engagement surveys...
Published: Jul 21, 2026Duration: 48m 1s
Episode 201
“What Private Equity Knows About Talent That Most Companies Miss”, David Cohen, Partner, Human Capital at Kelso
How does human capital create value in private equity?What does it take to be a successful HR leader in private equity?My guest on this episode is David Cohen, Partner, Human Capital at KelsoDuring our conversation David and I discuss:Why the role of the human capital partner in private equity is to unlock value through people, not to run HR for the firm itself.What is takes to be successful as a CHRO in a private equity backed company.Why human capital value creation comes...
Published: Jul 14, 2026Duration: 37m 4s
Episode 200
The Next Evolution of HR: From Business Partner to Business Builder, JP Elliott, Founder, Future of HR
In this solo episode, I make the case that being a strategic business partner is no longer enough. I share the shift I believe is coming next, from business partner to business builder, and the three mindset shifts and behaviors that separate the two.Here are a few key takeaways from the episode: Why being a strategic business partner is no longer enough, and what the next evolution of HR asks of us.How the move from business partner to business builder is a mindset, not a job title.Why execution excellence...
Published: Jul 7, 2026Duration: 18m 49s
Episode 199
[Greatest Hits] “What Works: Organizational Design” with Amy Kates, Organization Design Expert, Consultant, Educator, and Author
Why is organizational design much more than org charts and who reports to whom?How can HR guide, facilitate and drive effective an organizational design process? My guest on this episode is Amy Kates who is organizational design expert and author of five books on the subject. During our conversation Amy and I discuss: Why the purpose of organizational design is to design human behavior at scale Why matrix organizations are set up for good conflict and how best to manage it The six...
Published: Jun 30, 2026Duration: 51m 48s
Episode 198
How Workforce Readiness Becomes Mission Readiness with Kathleen McCarthy, EVP and Chief Human Resources Officer, SAIC
How can workforce readiness become mission readiness?Why is a people strategy not the same thing as a business strategy?My guest on this episode is Kathleen McCarthy, EVP and Chief Human Resources Officer, SAICDuring our conversation Kathleen and I discuss the following: Why a people strategy is not a business strategyWhy "progress over perfection" beats waiting for the perfect planHow CHROs are shifting from business partners to enterprise capability buildersWhy workforce readiness is a moving target, not a fixed destinationWhy you can't hire your...
Published: Jun 22, 2026Duration: 31m 45s
Episode 197
“Speak With Frameworks: How HR Leaders Win the Room” with Vicky Zhao, Founder, School of Human Intellect and Speaking With Frameworks
How can you think and communicate like an executive?Why is your strategy only as good as your ability to communicate it?My guest on this episode is Vicky Zhao, Founder, School of Human Intellect and Speaking With Frameworks.During our conversation Vicky and I discuss the following: Why the clearest idea, not the best idea, is the one that wins How the GPS framework (Goal, Problem, Solution) elevates your point of viewWhy the hardest shift is moving from a doer mindset to a...
Published: Jun 16, 2026Duration: 37m 16s
Episode 196
“Data Inspired: How Data Can Drive Change” with Sebastian Wernicke, author of “Data Inspired”
How can HR use data to drive change?Why is being “data driven” no longer a nice to have, but rather an expectation for HR leadersMy guest on this episode is Sebastian Wernicke, author of “Data Inspired”During our conversation Sebastian and I discuss the following: How the best data work starts by trying to prove yourself wrongWhy HR leaders must become critical consumers of dataHow to start with the business problem, not the available dataWhy data-inspired organizations rest on three foundations: data literacy...
Published: Jun 9, 2026Duration: 44m 18s
Episode 195
“Using AI to Amplify Human Potential & Performance” with Vicki Walia, Chief People and Experience Officer at Prudential Financial
Why should HR think of themselves as the business instead of supporting the business?How can AI amplify human potential and performance?My guest on this episode is Vicki Walia, Chief People and Experience Officer at Prudential FinancialDuring our conversation Vicki and I discuss the following: Why HR leaders need to see themselves as part of the business, not partners to it.How AI can amplify human potential and performance.How Vicki thinks about the AI "time dividend” and who should get the be...
Published: Jun 2, 2026Duration: 29m 57s
Episode 194
“The Power of the Pause: How to Reset, Refocus, and Lead Better” with Michael Fraccaro, Former CPO at Mastercard, Senior Advisor at Egon Zehnder, and Board Member.
How can the power of the pause make you an even more effective HR leader?Why do HR leaders need to have a point of view and the courage to share it?My guest on this episode is Michael Fraccaro, Former CPO at Mastercard, Senior Advisor at Egon ZehnderDuring our conversation Michael and I discuss the following: Why your credibility as a CHRO is built on your understanding of the business, not HRHow the power of the pause transforms decision qualityWhy culture is...
Published: May 26, 2026Duration: 33m 4s
Episode 193
“How to Build an AI-Ready Workforce” with Charlene Li, author of “Winning with AI,” speaker, and disruptive leadership expert
How can you build an AI-Ready workforce?Why is AI a leadership issue and not a technology issue?My guest on this episode is Charlene Li, author of “Winning with AI,” speaker, and disruptive leadership expertDuring our conversation Charlene and I discuss the following: Why AI-first is the wrong frame for most organizations, and how AI-ready puts your people and strategy back at the centerHow AI fluency differs from AI literacyWhy tools, training, and time are the three T's every leader needs to inve...
Published: May 19, 2026Duration: 39m 59s
Episode 192
“Why Every HR Leader Is in Sales” with Brendan McAdams, B2B Sales Coach & Consultant and author of ‘Sales Craft’
How can HR leaders learn to sell without selling?Why should every HR leader think of themselves as a salesperson?My guest on this episode is Brendan McAdams, B2B Sales Coach & Consultant and author of ‘Sales Craft’During our conversation Brendan and I discuss the following: Why every HR leader is already in sales, whether they call it that or notHow sales is really the work of helping someone make a better decision that is right for themWhy status quo is often the strongest competitor to a...
Published: May 12, 2026Duration: 33m 57s
Episode 191
“Executive Assessment: From Black Box to Better Decisions” with Mina Morris, Managing Director and Head of Assessments at Accenture
How can organizations use executive assessments to make better decisions?Why do you need to build your Executive Assessment fluency to have more impact as an HR leader?My guest on this episode is Mina Morris, Managing Director and Head of Assessments at AccentureDuring our conversation Mina and I discuss the following: Why executive assessment should start with business strategy, not tools, models, or methodologies.How using multiple data sources creates a more complete and accurate view of executive talent.Why executive assessment should be the start...
Published: May 5, 2026Duration: 35m 36s
Episode 190
“Chasing a Culture of Greatness” with Bala Sathyanarayanan, EVP and CHRO, Greif Inc. 
How can your culture become a competitive advantage?Why is engagement not just an HR metric, but a driver of business performance?My guest on this episode is Bala Sathyanarayanan, EVP and CHRO, Greif Inc. During our conversation Bala and I discuss the following: Why culture is the operating system that determines whether strategy succeeds or fails.Why engagement is not just an HR metric, but a leading indicator of customer and business performance.How organizations that focus on systems outperform those that focus...
Published: Apr 28, 2026Duration: 38m 9s