AI Real Talk: The Curiosity Connection

AI Real Talk: The Curiosity Connection

byMatt Karabinos

EducationTechnology

Matt Karabinos hosts discussions that focus on one of the most important traits we have in the AI age: curiosity. He leans into his own curiosity for how AI is changing, reshaping, and challenging what we know about education as we know it. Hearing from guests in education, artificial intelligence, and everywhere in between, learn why curiosity is our superpower in this age of AI in education. Let's see what connections we can make with your curiosity!

Episodes(40 episodes)

Episode 45
The Education System is 100% Dead. Here's What Comes Next... ft. Amirah Cummings
What if curiosity, not content, is the most important skill we can teach kids? In this episode of Real Talk: The Curiosity Connection, host Matt Karabinos sits down with Amirah Cummings, founder of KIO (Kids in Orbit), to explore how AI is unlimiting education, why the traditional school system is 100% obsolete, and what it truly means to become a self-driven learner.Amirah is a former software engineer turned educator whose work spans multilingual Montessori schooling, mission-based learning, and an entire ecosystem designed to turn kids into "Kionauts"—curious, compassionate explorers of Earth and the cosmos. At...
Published: Jul 25, 2026Duration: 1h 3m 26s
Episode 44
ISTE 2026: Start a Conversation, Not an Accusation with Mike Lawrence
In this episode recorded at ISTE 2026, Jethro Jones talks with Mike Lawrence. Mike shares how his school district built a culture of AI transparency using disclosure badges instead of bans, why teachers need to model the same openness they expect from students, and what's next as schools cautiously explore AI agents. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by Renaissance and IXL. Learn more about Renaissance: As a global leader in education technology operating in more than 110 countries, Renaissance is committed to providing educators with insights and resources to accelerate growth and...
Published: Jul 25, 2026Duration: 20m 46s
Episode 43
Doan Winkel: Building Friction, Autonomy, and Design with AI
Building Friction, Autonomy, and Design with AI | Doan WinkelWhat if the best thing AI can do for students is refuse to help them? Matt sits down with entrepreneur and educator Doan Winkel to dig into why "helpful AI" might be the worst thing to happen to learning and what to do instead.In this episode:The philosophy behind AI Friction Labs and why deliberately frustrating students might be the most effective teaching tool yetWhy Doan thinks the "easy button" problem isn't really an AI problemThe ungrading experiment that revealed something startling: students...
Published: Jul 18, 2026Duration: 45m 52s
Episode 42
Pathologically Uncurious About AI ft. Jake Rupp
Jake Rupp teaches AP Lang and public speaking, and he built his TikTok following by breaking down rhetoric in bite-sized lessons. In this episode we get into what voice actually means, why AI-written text is so easy to spot, and why Jake has decided AI has no place in his classroom at all.Jake grades without points. He built a feedback and revision system years before AI showed up, and students are still using AI to write their own reflections on their own AI-generated work. That single fact reshapes the whole conversation. We talk about a student...
Published: Jul 10, 2026Duration: 1h 9m 24s
Episode 41
Being a Cautious Advocate with Dr. Alfonso Mendoza Jr.
What does it mean to be a "cautious advocate" in the age of AI?In this episode of Artificial Intelligence Real Talk, host Matthew sits down with Dr. Alfonso Mendoza Jr. ("Dr. Fonz"), educator, ed-tech veteran, and host of the My EdTech Life podcast, for a wide-ranging and deeply honest conversation about what it really means to bring technology into classrooms with intention.Dr. Fonz brings over a decade of experience as a digital learning coordinator, a doctoral perspective on data and ed tech policy, and a refreshing willingness to pump the brakes...
Published: Jul 5, 2026Duration: 55m 37s
Episode 40
Aaron Makelky on AI Scouts, Snow Globes, & Building vs. Consuming
Matt Karabinos sits down with Aaron Makelky—former history teacher turned Community & Developer Relations Manager at Descript—to explore the wild, humbling, and often hilarious journey of discovering AI. From a student showing Aaron ChatGPT after a Thanksgiving break to both men leaving the classroom within a month of each other, this episode is a real conversation between two educators who went all-in on AI before it was mainstream. They dig into the "tech lash" in schools, Aaron's powerful "snow globe" analogy for how schools operate, why every staff needs AI scouts, how they're raising AI-literate kids at home, and...
Published: Jun 24, 2026Duration: 28m 48s
Episode 39
Rethinking Learning...Just in Time
What does it actually mean to use AI responsibly in education? In this episode, host Matthew sits down with educator, author, and automation advocate Jethro Jones to explore the difference between AI that builds you up versus AI that holds you back. Jethro introduces the concept of cognitive equity — using AI to expand what you're capable of — versus cognitive debt — using it to skip the learning that matters. They dive deep into practical frameworks for deciding what to automate, why students aren't really "cheating" with AI (and what we should do about it instead), and what truly meaningful learning looks...
Published: Jun 2, 2026Duration: 37m 35s
Episode 38
Curiosity Is the Entry Point: Matt Karabinos on AI in Education
In this introductory episode, Jethro welcomes Matt Karabinos as the new host of Artificial Intelligence: Real Talk — formerly A Vision for Learning. Matt shares his background as a recently-practicing classroom teacher and his current work helping schools, educators, students, and administrators make sense of AI in education.Together, Jethro and Matt explore what makes AI different from past edtech initiatives: it is not just another tool, search engine, or “vending machine.” Used well, AI can become a thought partner that helps teachers reimagine lessons, create new learning experiences, and solve real classroom problems without starting from scratch.M...
Published: May 20, 2026Duration: 17m 16s
Episode 37
Inside OpenAI’s Codex Party with Aaron Makelky
What happens when OpenAI invites a small group of Codex power users to the mothership?In this episode, Jethro Jones talks with Aaron Makelky about his trip to OpenAI’s Codex event in San Francisco, what it felt like to be in a room full of AI builders, and what the experience reveals about where AI tools are headed.Aaron shares how attendees were selected, what it was like meeting Sam Altman, why a simple wooden Codex keychain became an unexpectedly human conversation starter, and how the best AI users are combining tools like Codex, Cl...
Published: May 12, 2026Duration: 53m 52s
Episode 36
An AI Porsche Classroom Experience with Michael Angelone
In the context of teaching and learning, what it means to stay deeply human, intellectually honest, and pedagogically creative in a world increasingly shaped by machines.CourseHeroHow do we do school now that AI is here? Psychological safety for students. See Jethro’s article.Panels with students Guiderails, buy in, ideas. Student Success Council.Move from product to process. Hitting the wall. How to restrain. Just because everyone’s doing it doesn’t make it cool. The water usage is fake…AI Literacy as it’s own literacy. 4 phase AI scaffolding processIt’s like you’re teaching them to drive a new car. A...
Published: Apr 1, 2026Duration: 33m 34s
The Learning Experience: What Utah is Building with AI & Why it Matters
This week, we're sharing a special episode from The Learning Experience powered by CAST, part of the Be Podcast Network. You'll hear from Matt Winters, a leader from the Utah State Board of Education, discussing how artificial intelligence is shaping the future of teaching and learning. The conversation explores Utah’s statewide approach to AI, what it means for educators and students, and how schools can balance innovation with responsibility. The episode offers practical insights and big-picture thinking for anyone curious about the role of AI in education. This episode is brought to you by ReadSpeaker. Learn mor...
Published: Mar 24, 2026Duration: 40m 10s
Episode 35
How Schools Can Use AI with Sam Bourgeois
In this episode of Artificial Intelligence Real Talk, host Jethro Jones sits down with IT and cybersecurity expert Sam Bourgeois to explore how AI is transforming education—and the important questions schools must ask before diving in.Key Topics:AI as an equalizer for students with disabilities – Both Jethro and Sam share personal stories of how AI tools have helped their neurodivergent children communicate and learn in ways previously impossible, introducing the concept of "cognitive equity."Rethinking learning objectives – The conversation challenges educators to ask: What are we really measuring? If AI helps a student achieve the tr...
Published: Mar 10, 2026Duration: 45m 2s
Episode 34
AI in Education: Kevin Shindel on #UMustLearn Radio Show
This is a segment from #UMustLearn Radio Show featuring Kevin Shindel, a 25-year social studies teacher at Montgomery Blair High School, discussing artificial intelligence in education with host Dr. Daryl Howard.Topics Discussed:Evolution of Technology in EducationKevin traces his journey from observing MySpace in 2005 to launching a "Digital Detox" program in 2012 after discovering over 50% of teens wake up at night to textSocial media initially connected students but became weaponized once platforms monetized attention through AI algorithmsClassrooms transformed from one screen (2002) to 2+ screens per student, fundamentally altering learning environmentsAI as Ecosystem...
Published: Jan 15, 2026Duration: 29m 26s
Episode 33
AI, Privacy, and Governance with Peter Gregory
In this episode, Jethro sits down with Peter, author of the upcoming "AI Governance Professional Study Guide," to explore the complex intersection of artificial intelligence, privacy, and governance—especially in the context of education. They discuss the challenges of managing student data, the importance of anonymization, the ethical dilemmas posed by AI training, and the evolving role of educators in an AI-driven world. The conversation offers practical insights for schools and organizations navigating the opportunities and risks of adopting AI technologies. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by Renaissance and IXL. Learn more about Rena...
Published: Dec 30, 2025Duration: 43m 40s
Episode 32
Practical AI with Derek Crager
In this episode, Jethro interviews Derek "DC" Crager, a passionate advocate for making artificial intelligence accessible, especially for the neurodiverse community. DC shares his personal experiences as an autistic individual and discusses how AI can empower people with autism, ADHD, and dyslexia to enhance their skills and independence. The conversation explores the unique challenges neurodiverse individuals face, the importance of supportive AI interfaces, and how technology can provide cognitive equity and a patient, understanding companion. DC also explains his work with Practical AI and AI for Autistics, offering insights into building inclusive tools and communities that help neurodiverse people...
Published: Aug 9, 2025Duration: 27m 25s
Episode 31
The Art of AI Conversation with Jonathan Mast
In this episode, host Eli interviews Jonathan Mast, a leading expert in AI prompting. Jonathan shares his journey into AI, starting with the advent of ChatGPT, and discusses the importance of utilizing AI tools like ChatGPT, MidJourney, Claude, and Perplexity for business growth. He introduces a simple four-step AI prompt framework and emphasizes the need for iterative communication to get the most out of AI. Jonathan also addresses misconceptions about AI's complexity and its ethical considerations, advocating for its integration in education and other fields. The episode concludes with Jonathan providing insights into leveraging AI for deep research and...
Published: Jul 26, 2025Duration: 16m 11s
Episode 30
Ethics and Higher Education with Dr. Jonan Donaldson
In this episode,  Eli Davis engages Dr. Jonan Donaldson in a deep and thoughtful discussion on the intersection of AI, ethics, and education. Dr. Donaldson, an assistant professor at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, shares his views on how AI can augment human intelligence and transform learning. Topics covered include generative AI, complex systems, the importance of critical thinking, and the ethical responsibilities of educators in integrating AI into their classrooms. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by Renaissance and IXL. Learn more about Renaissance: As a global leader in e...
Published: Jul 12, 2025Duration: 38m 9s
Episode 29
Bridging the AI Gap with Zach Kinzler
In this episode, Eli Davis talks with Zach Kinzler, an AI educator and advocate. They discuss Kinzler's background, his work in integrating AI into education, and his experiences working with students globally, including in Africa. Kinzler shares insights into AI trends, misconceptions, and the importance of AI literacy. Additionally, the episode touches on the Smarter Campus Podcast, Bootle Box, and practical tips for those in engineering looking to leverage AI. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by Renaissance and IXL. Learn more about Renaissance: As a global leader in education tec...
Published: Jun 28, 2025Duration: 28m 30s
Episode 28
The Evolution of Conversational AI with Peter Swimm
In this episode, Eli Davis speaks with Peter Swimm, a conversational AI technologist. Peter, the founder of Toilville, LLC, discusses his work in designing AI tools, the balance between automation and human touch, ethics in AI development, and shares his thoughts on the integration of AI in various industries. They also explore the cultural impacts of AI and its potential for creating accessible technology. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by Renaissance and IXL. Learn more about Renaissance: As a global leader in education technology operating in more than 110 countries, Ren...
Published: Jun 14, 2025Duration: 31m 42s
Episode 27
The Two-Hour Learning Model with McKenzie Price
In this episode of Artificial Intelligence, Real Talk (AI with Eli), host Eli Davis sits down with McKenzie Price, Stanford grad, mom of two, and co-founder of the Two Hour Learning platform. McKenzie shares her journey in transforming education through AI-driven, personalized learning, and discusses the impact of life skills, socioeconomic challenges, and innovative teaching methods. The conversation covers the future of education, the role of teachers, and how AI can help unlock every child’s potential.Key Topics:McKenzie’s background and the founding of Two Hour LearningThe two-hour learning model and its academic resultsIntegrating life...
Published: May 24, 2025Duration: 29m 45s