Infrastructure as Code's Hidden Problem with Pavlo Baron

E45 - Infrastructure as Code's Hidden Problem with Pavlo Baron

Published: March 18, 2026

Duration: 57:35

Terraform drift, state wrangling, and a growing “tools for tools” stack are still daily work for many platform teams - despite a decade of DevOps talk and cloud maturity. Why does ops automation so often feel like it needs babysitting?

Pavlo Baron breaks down where Infrastructure as Code tends to break down in real organizations: manual drift management, low-level state complexity, and a lack of practical abstractions that let developers self-serve without inheriting the entire ops burden.

The conversation digs into what a more use-case-driven approach could look like - where teams can choose when to e...