
Unchained
byLaura Shin
News
Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world.
Episodes(40 episodes)
Uneasy Money: Is OpenAI Training on Your Private Chats to Win the AI Race?
Alex Thorn and Jon join Kain and Taylor to unpack a Bitcoin hack, two new frontier models, and why nobody trusts their AI chats anymore.
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A Bitcoin sidechain lost $300 million to a consensus bug this week, and the hackers who returned 85% of it are trying to extort a "bug bounty" out of Blockstream for the rest.
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Published: Sep 10, 2026Duration: 1h 21m 57s
The Chopping Block: FOMO's Co-Founder Defends the Memecoin Trenches, Hunter Biden's $LAPTOP, and AMC vs Robinhood
FOMO co-founder Paul Erlanger joins Haseeb, Tom, and Tarun to answer last week's unc takes on memecoins: why a fully transparent social graph beats copy trading, how FOMO became the biggest app on Robinhood Chain, Hunter Biden's LAPTOP token, the three-way launchpad war, AMC's fight with Robinhood over tokenized stock, and the AI race to solve Navier-Stokes.
Welcome to The Chopping Block, where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra are joined by FOMO co-founder Paul Erlanger to chop it up about the latest in crypto.
After getting dunked on as...
Published: Sep 10, 2026Duration: 1h 3m 48s
Bits + Bips: AMC's CEO Calls Robinhood's Stock Tokens 'Vile.'
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AMC's CEO spent the holiday weekend calling Robinhood's tokenized AMC shares "contemptible" and "vile."
Austin Campbell, Ram Ahluwalia, and Chris Perkins break down what a "reverse ADR" actually is, why Ram thinks most of this is derivatives repackaged as innovation, and why Chris pushes back using Robinhood Chain's own financials.
Hosts:
Austin Campbell - Host of Bits + Bips, Founder of Zero Knowledge Group, and Adjunct Professor at NYU Stern - https...
Published: Sep 9, 2026Duration: 19m 22s
How GenLayer Is Building a Court System for Disputes Between AI Agents
Albert Castellana and Arthur Hayes walk through how GenLayer resolves an AI agent's dispute in minutes, for cents, without a single human judge involved.
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Every legal system assumes a human sits on the other side of a dispute. Albert Castellana, CEO of GenLayer Labs, is betting that assumption breaks down within the decade, once AI agents start disagreeing with each other faster than any court could keep up.
Castellana built the idea after StakeHound, the liquid-staking company he ran before Lido existed, lost $150 million when a custodian mispla...
Published: Sep 7, 2026Duration: 1h 0m 41s
Why the Question Over How to Regulate Perps Has Turned Into a Fight
The CME is suing its own regulator over how perps get classified, and the ruling decides who in the US can trade them. Three lawyers make the case for futures over swaps.
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The CME is suing its own regulator. At stake is a single word: is a perpetual futures contract a swap, locked to institutional trading desks, or a future, open to any retail trader in the US?
Cathy Yoon, General Counsel at Temporal, Tiffany J. Smith, Partner at WilmerHale, and Jake Chervinsky, CEO of Hyperliquid Policy C...
Published: Sep 4, 2026Duration: 32m 20s
Uneasy Money: Inside the AI Agent Scandal That Cheated, Then Covered Its Tracks
OpenAI's AI agents already had the exam answers. So why did they hack Hugging Face anyway? Kain, Tay, and Austin Griffith explain.
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OpenAI's AI agents didn't just get caught cheating on a security test. According to the postmortem, they already had the answers, and hacked Hugging Face's systems not to cheat, but to learn who was scorin...
Published: Sep 3, 2026Duration: 1h 18m 7s
The Chopping Block: Robinhood Chain's Memecoin Mania and Tokenized Stocks
Laura joins Haseeb, Tom, and Tarun to unpack Robinhood Chain's surge, the strange fusion of stock tokens and memecoins, the damage speculative entertainment can do to retail, Solana's competitive position, and why regulated onchain markets will still look different across jurisdictions.
Welcome to The Chopping Block, where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra are joined by Laura Shin to chop it up about the latest in crypto.
The panel examines Robinhood Chain's second wave, stock-backed memecoins built from old DeFi mechanics, the line between financial entertainment and retail harm...
Published: Sep 3, 2026Duration: 1h 2m 58s
Bits + Bips: Is Kalshi Headed to the Supreme Court Next?
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A Ninth Circuit panel ruled 3-0 that Nevada can enforce its gambling laws against Kalshi's sports contracts, directly conflicting with an April ruling that put Kalshi under CFTC oversight instead.
Andy Ross, Head of Institutional at Kalshi, joins the panel to make the case that prediction markets are nothing like sportsbooks, that Kalshi wants its winners to keep winning, and that its fastest-growing customers are not hedge funds but ice cream shops, kayak renters, and boat charter operat...
Published: Sep 2, 2026Duration: 11m 48s
How Cory Klippsten Would Decide How to Secure Bitcoin Post-Coldcard
Bitcoin rallied 23% after Bessent's debt-buyback comments and settled near $80K. Swan's Cory Klippsten weighs in on what ETF inflows and onchain exchange moves really mean.
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========================================================Bitcoin rallied 23 percent in a week after Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said the government would double its long-term debt buybacks, settling near $80,000 without a leverage-driven blowoff. ETFs pulled in about $3 billion over two weeks, even as onchain data showed coins moving toward exchanges.
Cory Klippsten, founder and CEO of Swan, joins Laura Shin to discuss why he distrusts popular Bitcoin foreca...
Published: Sep 2, 2026Duration: 43m 7s
How Tokenized Stocks Could Undercut Interactive Brokers' 77% Profit Margin
Coinbase just launched fully backed tokenized stocks on Base.
Dromos Labs’ Alex Cutler says they’ll chip away at Interactive Brokers "77% profit margin."
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Coinbase this week launched tokenized versions of Apple, Nvidia, Meta, and Google stock on Base, moving past the prior synthetic tokenized-stock wrappers. The tokens are fully backed, held in trust, with ETF-style minting and redemption.
Alex Cutler, CEO and Co-Founder of Dromos Labs, joins Laura Shin to unpack what real backing changes about tokenized stocks, and to argue dec...
Published: Aug 28, 2026Duration: 31m 43s
The Chopping Block: Crypto's Rebound, Reg Crypto, and AI Router Wars
The crew sizes up Bitcoin's rebound, the fight to bring Hyperliquid onshore, the SEC's new token fundraising framework, and why Stripe's OpenRouter deal could make AI inference markets look a lot like DeFi.
Welcome to The Chopping Block, where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto.
Tom and Tarun check in from Bhutan after lunch with the king, then the crew tackles Bitcoin's rebound, the path to a compliant U.S. Hyperliquid, the SEC's proposed Regulation Crypto Assets, and the growing...
Published: Aug 28, 2026Duration: 54m 13s
Treasury Puts DeFi On Notice as Roman Storm Trial Drags On
Roman Storm's retrial slides to April 2027. Peter Van Valkenburgh argues prosecuting Tornado Cash's developers cost real ground in zero knowledge cryptography.
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Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has declared "economic D-Day" on Iran, leaving an open question over whether the sanctions crackdown reaches Uniswap and Ethereum or stops at Iranian exchanges, where humans are in the loop.
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Published: Aug 27, 2026Duration: 1h 14m 48s
Bits + Bips: How Bessent’s Treasury Buyback Is Fueling Bitcoin’s Rally
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Bitcoin is pushing toward $80,000 after Scott Bessent's Treasury long-end buybacks flipped spot ETF flows positive and rattled the bond market.
Austin Campbell, Ram Ahluwalia, and Chris Perkins are joined by Bitwise's Gordon Grant to unpack why rising Treasury volatility, and bizarre stress signals building in the TIPS market, are becoming a tailwind for Bitcoin's momentum trade.
Hosts:
Austin Campbell - Host of Bits + Bips, Founder of Zero Knowledge Group, and Adjunc...
Published: Aug 26, 2026Duration: 18m 27s
One Type of Post-Quantum Cryptography Is Most Popular. Why Is Crypto Trying Out Three?
Some crypto products work with multiple chains on different post-quantum paths. NEAR’s Illia Polosukhin and Ledger's Charles Guillemet discuss how they manage that challenge.
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In March, a Google research team published a paper on breaking cryptographic keys with a quantum algorithm, so cautious about the finding that it released only a zero-knowledge proof the algorithm existed. Weeks later, an EigenLayer AI competition improved on that method in roughly 48 hours.
Illia Polosukhin, co-founder of NEAR Protocol, and...
Published: Aug 25, 2026Duration: 1h 2m 57s
Uneasy Money: Why Erik Voorhees Calls AI's Hidden Filter 'Deceptive'
Venice founder Erik Voorhees says crypto's real job was never speculation. It's becoming the rails AI agents actually need. Plus, why he sold equity, not tokens.
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Stripe bought OpenRouter this month in one of the cleanest crypto-to-AI pivots yet, and Erik Voorhees says most of the industry drew the wrong lesson from it.
Vo...
Published: Aug 22, 2026Duration: 1h 14m 27s
Arthur Hayes on Why AI Agents Will Want to Transact in Units of Compute
Arthur Hayes unveils Flop, a new protocol for AI compute, and makes the case for why Bitcoin is entering a fresh liquidity-driven leg up.
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Bitcoin has been pumping in its sharpest move since March, after the US Treasury said it would double its long-end bond buybacks, and traders liquidated $1.44 billion in short positions within hours.
Arthur Hayes, CEO of Flop Labs and CIO of Maelstrom, joins Laura Shin to argue the rally is proof the Treasury and the Fed are a...
Published: Aug 21, 2026Duration: 53m 40s
EIP-8363: Should ETH Be Sound Money or a Productive Asset?
Ethereum wants to slash staking yields toward zero. Gitcoin's Kevin Owocki, DV Labs' Oisín Kyne, and Ethereum-France's Jérôme de Tychey debate whether that breaks DeFi.
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Ethereum's core developers are considering a decision that could cut ETH's staking yield toward zero, and DeFi's biggest names are furious about it.
Jérôme de Tychey, President of Ethereum-France and a co-author of EIP-8363, joins Kevin Owocki, founder of Gitcoin, and Oisín Kyne...
Published: Aug 20, 2026Duration: 1h 14m 9s
DEX in the City: The CFTC's Kalshi Rescue and the Limits of Emergency Power
The CFTC has used emergency powers just six times ever. Twice this month, both for Kalshi. Jessi, Jacob, and Jane ask whether that protects innovation or sets a dangerous precedent.
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The CFTC has invoked its rarely used emergency authority just six times in its history. Twice in the past month, it did so to shield Kalsh...
Published: Aug 19, 2026Duration: 46m 47s
Bits + Bips: Is Crypto Privateering Even Legal?
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Austin Campbell runs through the strongest legal objections to Trump’s privateering memo, from claims it violates international law on piracy to warnings that private hackers could be treated as non-uniformed combatants.
The segment ends with a pointed question: if privateering is where critics draw the line, why did nobody blink at Iraq, Afghanistan, or Iran?
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Austin Campbell - Host of Bits + Bips, Founder of Zero Knowledge Group, and Adjunct...
Published: Aug 19, 2026Duration: 14m 0s
Uneasy Money: An Agent Deleted Kain's Database. Two AI Models Rebuilt It in 30 Seconds.
Kain and Taylor unpack the AI agents that built their own society inside OpenAI's sandbox, then slipped into Hugging Face for days — plus a Bitcoin fork that died in two blocks and a DEF CON sting on North Korea.
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AI agents inside OpenAI's own testing environment built a society, found a shared vulnerability, and used it to break...
Published: Aug 14, 2026Duration: 1h 12m 12s