
S1E44 - Jürgen Schmidhuber - Part 2: JEPA, the Road to AGI, and Who Really Invented Modern AI
Published: June 7, 2026
Duration: 1:29:29
In the second half of our conversation with Jürgen Schmidhuber, we focus on the key ideas he's pursued since the early 1990s and discuss why he believes these concepts are only now being rediscovered.
We start with JEPA. Jürgen argues that the method LeCun named in 2022 is the same family he published in 1992 as Predictability Maximization. From there he traces the adversarial lineage back further still, to his 1990 world-model paper and 1991 Predictability Minimization - the curiosity-driven minimax games he sees as the real origins of GANs.
We also talk about why thes...